Giant-Size Man-Thing #4 (May, 1975)

If aging memory serves, it wasn’t long after the subject of today’s post first went on sale that it started to rapidly climb in value on the collector’s market — a phenomenon that was surely almost wholly attributable to the comic’s nine-page backup story, which presented the long-awaited first solo adventure of Howard the Duck.  But as epochal as Howard’s ascent to feature-starring status undoubtedly was half a century ago, the story which occupied the issue’s first thirty pages — “The Kid’s Night Out!”, starring the title’s muck-encrusted headliner, the Man-Thing — could hardly be called an inconsequential piece of work.  Rather, it’s one of the most memorable episodes of the lead feature’s entire original run… and it’s where we’ll begin our coverage of this seminal fifty-year-old comic book today. 

Gerber’s primary artistic collaborators on this story were Ed Hannigan and Ron Wilson, both credited as pencillers.  Both were young artists, and relatively new to the profession; but while Wilson had been around long enough to accrue multiple story credits on such books as Master of Kung Fu, Power Man, and Tales of the Zombie, this was only Hannigan’s second credit at Marvel, at least in a story published stateside.  (Prior to his first full story job in Planet of the Apes #5 [Feb., 1975], Hannigan had produced a number of pieces for the publisher’s UK line.).  Based on what I know of the artists’ styles from their other work, I see a good bit more of Hannigan than of Wilson in these pages… but I could easily be wrong.  And, of course, the distinctive inking of Frank Springer, himself an experienced penciller, helps provide visual continuity throughout the story.

Responding to the emotional stimulus of the trapped deer’s desperation, the Man-Thing steps forward and lifts the fallen tree, freeing the animal.  He then continues his aimless ramble, “seeking something else to feel”, until…

On the page above, notice how the funeral’s floral arrangement extends from the lid of the coffin, to its base, and then along the feet of the mourners, ultimately becoming part of the panel borders; a subtle visual effect that’s continued on through the following page…

The distraught young woman continues her imprecations, ignoring warnings from one of the mourners — the deceased’s uncle, Samuel Pinder — until, finally, Pinder takes matters into his own hands…

By the time Sam Pinder reaches Alice Rimes, the Man-Thing has stepped a short distance away, and so isn’t immediately seen by Pinder before he attacks the stunned girl…

Alice’s fellow students watch her pass in silence, each of them wondering “what Edmond’s words may say about him,”  until, finally, someone steps in front of her to block her way.  But it’s not a student — rather, it’s the school’s P.E. teacher, Lewis Milner, whom we saw earlier as one of the mourners at the funeral.  He demands that Alice hand over Edmond’s diary…

“The Book of Edmond” is another of the experiments with illustrated text that Gerber had begun conducting in recent months (see Giant-Size Defenders #3 for an earlier example); at five uninterrupted pages, it’s his most extensive use of this technique to date.

The technique’s utility in this particular story is at least two-fold.  First, it allows for Gerber to present considerably more information about the life of Edmond Winshed than he could ever have done in the same number of conventional comics-format pages; and to do so without overbalancing the narrative in the way that simply expanding the story’s page count would have.  Second, it immerses us within Edmond’s own subjective point of view, at a level which the natural imperatives of sequential art (“show, don’t tell”) would have interfered with; to this end, the illustrations that accompany the text are mostly symbolic, rather than representational, expressing Edmond’s inner landscape — which, of course, is dominated by his self-identification with the Man-Thing — rather than objective reality.

While the artwork by Hannigan, Wilson, and Springer is effective throughout the story, I think its at its best in these individual illustrations, which — especially in the pieces done to accompany Chapters 1 and II of Edmond’s diary — employ a dramatic chiaroscuro technique that eschews conventional linework to define forms entirely by light, shadow, and color, in a way reminiscent of Jim Steranko’s Marvel comic-book art of a few years before.

Asked in a 2002 interview (eventually published in Comic Book Creator #6 [Winter, 2014]) whether there was a strong autobiographical element in “The Kid’s Night Out!!”, Steve Gerber readily acknowledged that there was — although he then went on to clarify that readers shouldn’t assume a strict one-to-one correspondence between the circumstances encountered by his own younger self, and those faced by Edmond Winshed:

I was never grossly obese, but I was always overweight.  Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn’t have been better if I had just been some roly-poly kid who could resign himself to that, but I was always right over the line.  I was the last one picked with the soccer team or the baseball team or anything else, because my eyes were so bad…  I didn’t really have much depth perception, so I would get hit in the head a lot by softballs and footballs. [laughs]  Yeah, that story came, very much so, from personal experience.

The phallic symbolism of the hammer would likely be plain to any reader from the text alone; on the other hand, the concurrent Thor-referencing “if he be worthy” vibe is probably dependent on the accompanying illustration.

At this point, we’ve reached the end of Edmond’s diary… but not of the story’s extended experiment with illustrated text, as we have one last page of such — Alice’s epilogue —  left to experience.  In a note to readers on this issue’s letters page, Steve Gerber gratefully acknowledged the help of another Marvel talent, letterer Annette Kawecki (who, it should be noted, didn’t actually letter this particular story), in the crafting of Alice’s words:

Annette and I spent a slightly anguishing evening writing Alice’s epilogue to Edmond’s manuscript together.  It is, I think, the single most important page in the story — and the best.  If you agree, fully half the credit is Annette’s.  Half the credit… and all the appreciation I know how to express.

Three months later, the letters column of Giant-Size Man-Thing #5 featured a very positive missive from future pro cartoonist Fred Hembeck which noted that some elements of the story, such as “a kid dying of running laps” were “a little melodramatic… but that is not bad.  These stories are larger than life.”  That prompted the following response (probably written by Gerber):

(To the best of my knowledge, neither Gerber nor anyone else ever offered any further details about the “real-life” inspiration for Edmond’s death.)

(According to the Grand Comics Database, the page above was pencilled by neither Ed Hannigan nor Ron Wilson, but rather by John Buscema; there’s no further information given justifying this attribution, so make of it what you will.)

Along with Edmond’s death-by-running-laps, Fred Hembeck’s GSMT #5 letter of comment mentioned “Alice hanging from the rings” as one of this story’s more melodramatic elements; notably, the editorial response didn’t offer a real-world antecedent for that particular scene.  Nor did Gerber attempt to frame it as “realistic” when it came up in an interview published not long after this in Marvel’s own in-house fan magazine FOOM (specifically, in issue #9 [Mar., 1975]):

The scene the way I had written it originally had her just on the floor of the gymnasium, encircled by Edmund’s parents, the gym teacher, and these other people. I decided, basically for visual impact, to use something a little stronger than that- having her hang from those gym rings. I don’t think that was exceptionally realistic any more than I think the rest of the story was realistic.

In the gym, Alice tells her captors that they won’t get away with this: “When my parents hear — ”

But Lewis Milner cuts her off.  “I already called your parents.  They’re as… worried about ya as we are.”  According to Milner, he and the others have Alice’s folks’ permission to do whatever may be necessary to help their daughter come to her senses (she’s been keeping to herself so much since Edmond’s death, you understand, letting her studies slide, etc.)…

Among those on the receiving end of the Man-Thing’s (or, if you prefer, Edmond’s) vengeance, that which is here dealt out to Elinore Pinder — who, you may have noticed, hasn’t had a single word of dialogue in the story (not even in the context of Edmond’s diary), and now, never can — may seem the most brutal… and perhaps, also, the most unjust, given that she had at least been kind to Edmond in the past.  But the word here is “vengeance”, after all, rather than justice; and in the end, whatever else “The Kid’s Night Out!” might be, it is without doubt a horror story.

The Man-Thing now turns his attention now to the last of Edmond and Alice’s male tormentors (interestingly, other than Elinore, the guilty females — i.e., Edmond’s mother and grandmother — appear to make it through this sequence unscathed, at least physically) — and, clearly, also the most guilty: Lewis Milner.

In February, 1975, your humble blogger was seventeen years old, and in my final semester of high school.  As a short, soft-bodied, nerdy kid, I’d experienced my share of on-campus bullying (mostly in junior high), and I knew as well as Edmond Winshed (not to mention Steve Gerber) the regular humiliation of always being the last guy picked for any kind of athletic competition.  On the other hand, I was fortunate enough to have not been too overweight (something else I had in common with Gerber); also, the small private school I attended didn’t put much emphasis on sports, or even basic Phys. Ed., so I never had to deal with anyone remotely like Lewis Milner.  All of which is to say that while I identified with Edmond to a certain extent, I didn’t really internalize his story… mostly because I didn’t have to.  (Honestly, I don’t think I realized at the time just how lucky I was.)  But even if I didn’t take the story “to heart”, as it were, that didn’t mean I didn’t find it powerful… or that I didn’t have a clue what it must have meant to Steve Gerber to have this opportunity to exorcise a few of his own high school-era demons.

In the same FOOM #9 interview quoted from earlier in this post, Gerber was asked to expound on his “theory of comic books as self-therapy”; after acknowledging that the story in Giant-Size Man-Thing #4 did indeed draw on his “personal experience of growing up”, the author went on to say:

It’s not so much therapy, exactly.  I guess it is, in a way. It’s a means of getting out rage.  The trouble is, that when you let it just become therapy it sometimes weakens the story on the whole.  I don’t like the last chapter of that story, where Man-Thing comes into the gym and basically tears everyone limb-from-limb.  It came out as pure revenge.  While I think it had some exciting visual things that made it good for the comic book medium, it was not a true ending for that particular story.  The true ending to that particular story should have been that nothing happened.  Alice read the manuscript to the kids, they said, “Maybe we’ll print it, we’ll see.” She went back to the locker, put it away, and that’s the end of the story. Nothing happened. There was an alternate end to the story, and that’s what I did in the following issue…

After noting other less than “exceptionally realistic” aspects of the story (such as Alice being hung from the gym rings, Gerber’s comments about which we’ve already quoted), the writer concluded:

The next two issues of MAN-THING were in a sense an apology for that story. An apology for myself. I don’t know what the readers are going to say.  The other thing that could have happened as a result of Edmund’s death was a severe reaction against the high school for all the wrong reasons. That’s what happened to the book burning. The subsequent results, the death and rebirth of Man-Thing in issues 17 and 18. Those books were written about things I was concerned about but I think it becomes a problem when it really becomes therapy.

In those “next two issues” referred to here, Man-Thing #17 and #18, Steve Gerber would make what appeared at the time to be his final statement not just on Citrusville’s high school, but on the entire town.  Next month, we’ll be taking a look at those issues, as well as the preceding chapter of what we’ll call the Mad Viking Trilogy, which had appeared in Man-Thing #16 one month ahead of Giant-Size Man-Thing #4.  I hope to see you then.


And now, for something completely different!

Well, OK, maybe not completely different, given that “Frog Death!” is, like “The Kid’s Night Out!”, a Marvel Comics story of fifty years’ vintage written by one Steve Gerber.  But in almost every other way that counts, the debut solo adventure of Howard the Duck is very much its own thing.

As previously discussed in our posts on Fear #19 and Man-Thing #1 (from sixteen and fifteen months ago, respectively), Howard was a sensation with fans virtually from his debut appearance on the last few pages of the former book; and demand for his return, following a editorially-decreed, supposed-to-be-fatal plunge into a dimensional void just a few pages into the latter book, was both loud and insistent.  So how come this story took well over a year to come to fruition?

At least some of the blame seems to fall upon the shoulders of the superstar artist initially slated to draw “Frog Death!” — the immensely talented, but notoriously slow (or at least over-committed), Neal Adams.  According to the artist who did end up pencilling (and inking, and coloring) the story, Frank Brunner, it was Adams’ alleged foot-dragging that provided him with the opportunity to be involved in launching Howard’s solo strip, as he related for a Gerber/HtD retrospective in Back Issue #31 (Nov., 2008):

The first time I saw Howard in Man-Thing, I knew I had to be part of this Duck’s career; he was unique compared to the rest of the Marvel Universe…  When I contacted Gerber about Howard the Duck, he said he’d already written a short story as a backup in Giant-Size Man-Thing, and the script had been sitting on Neal’s drawing board for six months with no progress!  I said, ‘Send it to me. I can start right away!’ And the rest, as they say, ‘is history.’

Of course, if you read our Giant-Size Man-Thing #3 post from three months ago, you’ll know that Gerber and Brunner’s “Frog Death!” was originally supposed to appear there, where it would have nicely complemented the lead story — a yarn that re-united the Man-Thing with several of his and Howard’s comrades from Fear #19/Man-Thing #1.  But as a note from Gerber on the letters page of that issue explained, as of the time he was writing, Howard’s solo debut was “still in California, on the sun-splashed drawing board of Frank Brunner.”  So it would seem that if there’s blame to go around, Mr. Brunner is probably eligible for at least a small share.

But, in the end, all that hardly matters, does it?  Fifty years later, “Frog Death!” is right here, ready to hand, waiting patiently for our perusal…

Back in February, 1975, I may or may not have recognized the name of “spiritual guide” Carl Barks — the long-anonymous Good Duck Artist who’d written and drawn hundreds of comic-book stories featuring Donald Duck and his feathered ilk (including, of course, Barks’ own creation, Uncle Scrooge) for the Walt Disney Company-licensed comic books produced by Western Publishing from the early ’40s through the late ’60s.  (If my younger self did have a clue who Barks was, it was probably thanks to my friend and fellow comics fan Ken Stribling, whose knowledge of comics history considerably outstripped my own at this time.)  Looking back now, it seems that while it was clearly appropriate to give Barks a shout-out, it was also perhaps more than a little imprudent on Marvel’s part — at least if they hoped to fly below the radar of the corporation that had launched a major lawsuit against Dan O’Neill’s Air Pirates just a few years before,

In a 1994 radio interview (eventually transcribed and published in Comic Book Creator #33 [Winter, 2024]), Steve Gerber was asked”, “Why Cleveland?”  He responded with the following:

Cleveland was the joke city of the moment, actually.  I had never been to Cleveland at the time I wrote that. It just seemed like the logical place. I mean, somewhere in the Rust Belt, someplace that was then, you know, sort of a city on its way down.  It seemed like the perfect location for a character like that…

 

I’ve never actually spent any time in Cleveland…  All the landmarks and everything were completely made up and nobody in Cleveland ever complained, which I found interesting.

I’ll leave it to others with more personal knowledge of the Forest City to opine on whether Gerber’s assessment of the place (circa 1975) was fair or not.  For now, however, let’s move on…

Not far away, Howard is sitting on a stoop with his two new acquaintances, answering their questions about how things are different back where he comes from:  “More ducks.  Apes don’t talk.”  And then…

For some reason, the original version of Frank Brunner’s cover for Giant-Size Man-Thing #4 — which included an inset portrait of Howard more or less identical to that in the circle-shaped panel above — was modified, with Howard’s mug being replaced by an all-text blurb, instead.  (A blurb which, incidentally, managed to misspell “Garko” as “Gorko”.)  Was someone in the Marvel offices still skittish about putting a pic of a funny animal on the cover of a “serious” comic book?  It certainly seems possible, at least.

Frank Brunner’s rendition of Howard the Duck follows that of the mallard’s original artist, Val Mayerik, quite closely — although I think it’s fair to say that his Howard bears an even closer resemblance to Donald than Mayerik’s did.

So ends Howard the Duck’s first, er, flight.  Among other things, it’s the “purest” version of Frank Brunner’s visual interpretation we’d ever get, at least in terms of story pages, since the artist wouldn’t end up inking any of the following series installments he’d pencil (and would color only one).  That didn’t mean there wasn’t still plenty to look forward to, however, both from Brunner and his artistic successors on the strip… and, of course, from Steve Gerber, whose absurdist, acerbic sensibility would prove to be the Duck’s heart and soul.


Like every other “Giant-Size” comic published by Marvel during this era, Giant-Size Man-Thing #4 included some reprinted material.  So, in the interest of completeness if nothing else, we’ll wrap this post up by touching briefly on the two short tales from the publisher’s archives that filled out this issue’s page count.

The first, and most enjoyable of the pair, is “I Entered the… Doorway to Doom!”, by artist Steve Ditko and an unknown scripter.  Originally published in Strange Tales #72 (Dec., 1959), this five-pager about a Russian farmer’s discovery of a cavern containing a gateway to a dimension full of conquest-hungry aliens may not be anything to write home about, story-wise; but Ditko’s designs for the green, top-shaped aliens, who somehow manage to be both cute and menacing at the same time, are a lot of fun.

The second, and less interesting, offering is “The Man With No Past”, first presented in Journey into Mystery #21 (Jan., 1955).  Written by Paul S. Newman, the story recounts the efforts of a commercial artist to seek psychiatric help for his cripplingly severe claustrophobia.  Directed under hypnosis to draw a scene from his earliest memory, the patient can remember nothing earlier than his first day at his current job, just one year before… until, in a breakthrough, he draws himself lying in a coffin!  He’s actually a “reincarnated” dead guy.  Get it?  No?  Me either.   Outside of its being well-illustrated by the always reliable Joe Maneely, this one has little justification for having been returned to print.  But so it goes.

21 comments

  1. frednotfaith2 · February 1, 2025

    As usual with the Giant-Size mags, I missed this one 50 years ago and my usual haunt for comics in January 1975 never included any giant-sizers on the racks. Eventually, I did read the main stories – Howard’s in the Treasury Edition published in 1976, The Kid’s Night Out in Essential Man-Thing volume 2. Very glad you got it yourself back in the day, Alan, and wrote this missive about it!
    Certainly, I could also relate to Edmund’s plight as while I was rather underweight rather than overweight, I was very inept at t wheam sports, mainly the three balls of torment, as I regarded them – baseball, football and basketball. I was so bad that fights would break out over which team had to take me! I’d actually read about Gerber’s story many years before finally reading it for myself. I can understand Gerber’s self-critique of his tale in regard to Edmund’s vengeance from the grave through Man-Thing, and the reality would have been far more mundane, but then this is mostly a horror mag and as somehow mystically inhabited by Edmond’s vengeful spirit, Man-Thing wreaks more horrible havoc than ever before in any previously published story! Earlier, I had obtained the regular series trilogy of issues featuring the Mad Viking, including “A Book Burns in Citrusville”, which I regard as one of Gerber’s greatest classics, with very effective art by Jim Mooney. I liked Gerber’s text pieces here and elsewhere. I know they weren’t everyone’s cup of tea — “hey, Gerber, this is comics, not novels!
    Text shouldn’t overtake the art! What the H E double-hockey sticks are ya doing???!!” (to borrow a term from the late, great Martin Mull!). Still, they became part of his unique style or writing and I feel they usually added to the overall story in each case. And I fully agree with your assessment on the accompanying illustrations fitting very well with the text. Overall, a great horror story – not so much on the horror of Manny himself, although there was plenty of that, but of ordinary people behaving horribly to one another, which to me is far more unsettling than any depiction of misdeeds by supernatural creatures, mainly because I know that the latter is pure fantasy but the former happens over and over again all over the world.
    As to possibly America’s 3rd most famous duck – after Donald & Daffy, Frog Death was very entertaining, mixing humor and horror as would the next venture featuring the Hellcow whose image I appropriated for use as my visual icon over on the Collected Editions forum. Yeah, Brunner did make Howard look a bit more like Donald than Mayerik did, but either it some avoided catching the notice of the Disney Corporation or they let it slide at the time. in 1975, btw, although I had read at least a few stories featuring Donald Duck & Scrooge McDuck, etc., it would be many more years before I became familiar with the name Carl Barks. My mother did tell me at some point that comics featuring Donald and his miserly mogul uncle were among her childhood favorites and for Christmas one year I got her a massive treasury of some of the best of Bark’s “good duck” work. After mom died, nearly 11 years ago now, I incorporated that and most of her other books into my book collection (which take up quite a few bookshelves in nearly every room in my house!). Also, while I don’t believe Mayerik drew any HtD stories set in Cleveland, he did draw at least a few pieces for Harvey Pekar’s American Splendor, most of which were set in Cleveland, Pekar’s hometown. Never even been to Ohio myself at all, although a couple of my current friends previously lived in Ohio.
    Loved your review of this classic mag, Alan!

  2. Man of Bronze · February 1, 2025

    I bought this for the cover alone, and enjoyed Frank Brunner’s art in the Howard the Duck story as well. Never knew about the Howard inset image on the front cover! Personally, I think Gorko sounds better than Garko, but it matters little. To this day I still haven’t sat down to actually *read* any of the stories. Perhaps one day soon.

    • Man of Bronze · February 1, 2025

      Speaking of the cover, I suspect Frank Brunner may have taken some inspiration from his friend Bernie Wrightson’s cover for House of Secrets no. 103 from several years earlier.

      https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/ingest/book/preview/87aa2dbd-a4a4-402c-8992-0b944e234148/7696527a-3370-4601-b658-669e9671e114/0.jpg?h=800&fit=max&fill=blur&format,compress

      • frednotfaith2 · February 1, 2025

        Hadn’t seen that Wrightson cover before. Both are very striking, excellent covers. I’d rate Brunner’s cover here as one of my all-time favorites. While Wrightson never drew a HtD story (AFAIK), he did draw the image on the campaign button for Howard’s presidential run

        • Don Goodrum · February 1, 2025

          I had my Howard for President button for years before I lost it during one of my many moves, Fred. Thanks for reminding me of it, ’cause I’d forgotten all about it.

          • frednotfaith2 · February 1, 2025

            Glad to be of service, Don! I certainly know how it feels to lose things while moving, having done so multiple times as both a child and an adult, although I’ve been much more settled down over the last quarter century – in one house for 18 years and then moving a few blocks away in 2018 to my current home.

            • Don Goodrum · February 2, 2025

              Hey, guess what? I actually found my HtD for President button! I got to thinking about it and remembered an old box of promotional pins I used to have from when I was on the radio. I dragged it out and voila! there was Howard’s smiling face, grinning up at me! I took a picture of it and if I can ever figure out how to include a photo with a reply, I’ll post it, but WP doesn’t seem too interested in our sharing pictures.

        • Man of Bronze · February 2, 2025

          Wrightson not only drew the campaign button, but also a Howard the Duck poster. Both can be seen here.
          https://www.cbr.com/howard-duck-presidential-campaign-1976/

  3. Don Goodrum · February 1, 2025

    Hmmm. I don’t remember this one. I wasn’t a Man-Thing fan in ’75, so if I saw it on the stands at all, I probably passed over it, Howard the Duck story or not, and that’s a shame.

    As I’m sure most of us will attest, I can identify with Gerber’s Edmond. I wasn’t over-weight (that wouldn’t come until after I turned 30), just ridiculously skinny and as unathletic as you could get. It’s amazing in retrospect that an institution that was supposed to emphasize expanding our minds and getting an education put so much emphasis on physical strength and athletic prowess. Anyway, I would have identified with Edmond back in 75, at the end of a Jr. High and High school career that had seen me embarrassed and humiliated at the hands of various bullies, beaten up behind the bleachers, and stuffed into a locker a time or two; just the normal all-American hijinks that they used to say would make a man out of us, if we’d just suck it up and take it. I also would have identified with Edmond’s desire to fight their cruelty with the power of the pen; to leave his rebuttal of their horrible treatment of him in the pages of his journal. I had a gym teacher like Milner in Jr. High. A sadistic SOB who exercised his own power and made himself feel stronger, by making us feel weaker and showing how superior he was to a bunch of twelve and thirteen year olds. I only had to deal with him for one year, but he got his years later, when it came out that he was molesting female students in his office. Didn’t know about it while it was happening, but I wasn’t surprised when it all came out years later.

    Sorry, Alan. Looks like we may all be indulging in a bit of “self-therapy” over this one. As for the Howard story, what a wonderful taste of the weirdness to come. I remember all the controversy about the similarities between Howard and Donald and making Howard wear pants at some point, but the stories were great and, hopefully, to Gerber, well-worth the trouble. Again, I don’t remember this tale, but I was all-in by the time Hellcow came around. Great stuff.

    Thanks for the walk down memory lane, Alan. A little more sturm and drang, perhaps, this time out, but a fun time all the same.

  4. brucesfl · February 1, 2025

    The Man-Thing story in this issue is probably the single most depressing comic I have ever read, both 50 years ago, and sadly, today. That is not a mark against it. It is a very good, well written story, and yes perhaps a bit heavy handed as Gerber himself later noted but that is what makes it so effective. What I find depressing today is that 50 years later, this story is still relevant. And Alan, regarding your discussion of Gerber’s comments about an alternate ending to this story…in the actual story not much happened to Edmund’s parents or grandmother who appear just as guilty for Edmund’s misery and also seem like terrible people, and I don’t recall if we found out if Edmund’s journal was ever published. But the horrors of bullying and high school cruelty appear just as relevant today and that makes me sad. Gerber was capable of writing some very sad and depressing stories in Man-Thing, such as the Night of the Laughing Dead in Man-Thing 5-6 (the suicide of a clown!), and the poignant fate of Kyle’s girl friend who lost an arm because of Egghead in Giant Size Defenders 4. But this story (The Kid’s Night Out) really resonated with me. I was in my first year of college when I read this, but I had my memories of high school and I was an average athlete. I never went through anything like Edmund and never had a gym teacher like in this story…but sometimes they could be annoying. At this point, Gerber had really matured as a writer and we would see some of his best work on Man-Thing and Defenders (and of course we had no idea what was really coming when Howard the Duck became a regular series).

    Regarding Howard the Duck, the first story was really excellent, and it was a treat to see Brunner’s pencils and inks. It was a fun story and a real change of pace after the bleakness of the first story.

    As to the cover, I noticed, Alan that your research is usually very exhaustive and outstanding, but did you know that the cover for Giant Size Man-Thing 4 is not the original cover? Apparently Brunner drew a different cover which actually did show Man-Thing running amok in the high school with students running terrified by the sight of the Man-Thing. Unfortunately I can’t remember where I saw that unused cover (but I definitely did see it). It was in one of the excellent interview magazines, either Back Issue or Comic Book Creator having a discussion with or about Steve Gerber, that showed the original planned cover for GSMT 4. I have read interviews with Len Wein where he mentioned that when he was editor-in-chief at Marvel (during this time 50 years ago) one of his favorite jobs was being actively involved in the preparation of the covers for all the Marvel books. As I understand there was concern that the original cover may have been too off putting or threatening. It is possible that Brunner had already drawn a more generic Man-Thing cover (which let’s face it, is exactly what the final cover was…very generic, but quite good). And despite the cover copy, there is no indication in that cover that Man-Thing is in a high school. Regarding the almost picture of Howard the Duck on the cover of GSMT 4, I suspect that Len had a hand in the removal of that also. As the former writer of Swamp Thing, I’m guessing that Len did not want anything (like a picture of Howard) that might detract from the seriousness of the cover, but presumably was ok with cover copy mentioning Howard’s appearance.

    While Len Wein was very involved in cover production he was not quite as involved with the actual interiors of the comics…that was just not possible because he had an enormous workload of (I believe) over 50 comics a month, and writing the Hulk and soon Giant Size X-Men. This would lead to a lot of writers such as Gerber and Englehart acting as almost de facto writers and editors. It would lead to some great stories, such as the Man-Thing and Howard stories above and the excellent Warlock story you discussed a few days ago, but it would also lead to the mess that was Cap 186 that I presume you will be discussing in March. I am sure you and many others (including myself) will have plenty to say about that story.

    I also look forward to your discussion of Man-Thing 16-18, another very dark and depressing storyline, which in retrospect it’s amazing Gerber was allowed to get through, but perhaps for the reasons I suggested above. Thanks Alan for another excellent review.

    • Alan Stewart · February 1, 2025

      Hmm, I may have seen that unused Brunner cover at some point — but if I did, it didn’t register! Thanks for sharing that additional factoid, brucesfl.

      • frednotfaith2 · February 1, 2025

        First time I’ve heard of that alternate, unused cover myself.

  5. frasersherman · February 1, 2025

    Weird. Looking back I don’t think PE was ever organized enough for “choose teams” — we were a big football school and the coaches paid minimal attention to classes. We mostly just stood around doing nothing. Which was preferable to many alternatives obviously.
    And fortunately I lucked in finding people to hang out with so high school isn’t as nightmarish a memory as it was for Gerber.
    That said, a powerful, disturbing story. And Howard.

  6. John Minehan · February 2, 2025

    This was “Vertigo” about 20 years before DC launched that line. Too bad Gerber did not do more Work for them. He may not have been a seminal influence (many of the “plank holder” creative types were Brits) but he had the Vertigo sensibilities down long before it existed . . . .

    • slangwordscott · February 22, 2025

      John, I’ve long thought that Alan Moore’s excellent run on Swamp Thing owed a lot to Gerber’s work on Man-Thing.

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