New Gods #8 (April, 1972)

Following two episodes set either on the ocean waves or on the god-worlds of New Genesis and Apokolips (the latter also being set many years in the past), in the eighth issue of New Gods writer-artist-editor Jack Kirby brought the action back to the city of Metropolis for the first time since issue #5.  In doing so, he was required to pick up plot threads that had been left dangling ever since that issue, published six months earlier, as well as to re-introduce a significant new supporting character not seen since then.  Of course, Kirby being the master storyteller he was, he could throw you right into the middle of the action — as he does on the very first page of #8 — and you’d find yourself acclimated almost immediately, even if you’d never read any previous issue of New Gods, let alone remembered the details of issue #5: 

These two ordinary humans who’ve suddenly found themselves beset by Kalibak are Dave Lincoln and Claudia Shane — both of whom, as Dave helpfully notes, had been rescued from Apokolips in general (and Kalibak specifically) by Orion of New Genesis all the way back in issue #1.

Dave, being a licensed private investigator, knows how to use his gun, but that doesn’t make his bullets any more effective against an Apokoliptican of Kalibak’s stature.  Realizing his weapon is useless, he hurls it at his and Claudia’s assailant, then goes after him with his fists — which, as you can imagine, is even less helpful than shooting at him was…

We first met Det. Sgt. Dan “Terrible” Turpin back in issue #5, when he’d grilled Dave Lincoln about the various combative superbeings newly arrived in town.  But if you’re making his acquaintance here for the first time, Kirby gets you up to speed in a New York Metropolis minute.

Fresh from their adventure upon the “Glory Boat”, Orion and Lightray have arrived on the roof of this particular building so that the former can fix the latter up with temporary digs while he’s on Earth, courtesy of another of the Earthlings rescued by Orion back in #1, Victor Lanza.  (Ironically, the reason they’ve come here, and not to Dave Lincoln’s place, is that Orion is already staying there and, we may presume, is being considerate of not taking advantage of Dave’s hospitality by burdening him with a second guest.  Of course, if they had gone straight there, the rest of our story would play out rather differently.)

While the two gods of New Genesis navigate what Lightray refers to as a “fantastic curio” providing “hydraulic travel of pre-gravitic vintage” — that’s an elevator to you and me —  Turpin races to the scene of the burgeoning crisis…

As it turns out, Victor hasn’t quite gotten around to filling his wife in on his recent escapades with the New Gods, at least not in any detail (“It’s n-not easy to explain a war between New Genesis and Apokolips at one sitting, Orion!”).  But Lightray is a natural charmer, and soon Mrs. Lanza is doing her best to make him feel at home — not only offering him a bowl of fruit (“… this nice young man looks famished!”), but also seeing to his entertainment needs…

When the grenades go off, the impact is enough to knock Kalibak off the roof.  But Turpin, not hearing his foe hit the ground below, orders his fellow officers to stay back; unfortunately, they don’t listen…

Before Kalibak can strike Lightray, Orion comes up behind him and seizes him by his club-arm.  “You underrate what is forged on New Genesis, you dog!!” the warrior declares as wrests the weapon from his enemy’s grasp.  “There, too, is power — and purpose!!”

Though Kirby had revealed most of the secrets of Orion’s family heritage in the previous issue’s “The Pact!”, he’d held onto one — namely, what it is that the champion of New Genesis and Kalibak “share“.  But despite Orion’s desire to have the whole business of what’s between them over and done with “now!!“, that secret will remain under wraps until the series’ final issue, #11.

Lightray’s dialogue in the last two panels above represents the first time that the theme indicated by the story’s title — “The Death Wish of Terrible Turpin!” has been directly addressed within its pages.  Up until this point, a reader could interpret Turpin’s actions in a wholly positive light; to wit, Turpin could be seen simply as a brave man dedicated to serving the people of his city, determined to perform his sworn duty as a law officer regardless of the immensity of the odds against him.  Lightray’s remark, however, raises the possibility of darker — or at least more self-serving — motivations for Turpin’s behavior, such as “pride — fear — or thirst for immortality!”, and suggests that Turpin is like Orion and Kalibak in this respect.

But no sooner has the issue been raised than it’s set aside: “This question must remain unanswered for now!”  Kirby never does answer the question of just what drives Turpin, in fact, perhaps because he didn’t think it was actually all that important; rather, he may have simply been making the point that people are complex beings, driven by varied and sometimes contradictory motivations — positive as well as negative, conscious as well as unconscious.

Turpin tells Lightray that the equipment draws its juice from every generator in the city — “and that’s shock-power, friend!”.  Discerning the police’s intent the New Genesian objects: “But you can’t do this!  Not even I can interfere in a situation of personal combat!”

Meanwhile, the battle of the gods rages on…

Turpin has clearly ignored Lightray’s objections — his duty is to protect the mortal human beings of Metropolis, and the rules and mores of the “super ‘muk-muks'” are of no concern to him.

If Dan Turpin really has gone into this situation with a “death wish”, either conscious or un-, it goes unfulfilled; though he’s bruised and bloody, he’ll survive.

As the sergeant is carried away on a stretcher, Dave Lincoln and Claudia Shane (remember them?) emerge onto the roof…

Our tale concludes with a quiet, poignant character moment between Orion and Lightray; but there’s no doubt that, overall, this story belongs to the man whose name is in the title — a man of whom his creator would later say:

If he were a real man, he would stand head and shoulders above what a common man of today’s society is like. But still, he is the essential character of all mankind, to stand up against all odds because nobody else would do the job. There’s always one who will, and when we run out of people like that, that’s when we’re all going to be in trouble.*

When it first came out, “The Death Wish of Terrible Turpin!” was by no means one of my favorite New Gods stories.  There were several things about it that my younger self found somewhat off-putting, most notably the brutality of the violence (though obviously hampered by the Comics Code in terms of being able to fully show that violence’s effects, Kirby was nevertheless able to effectively convey the appalling amount of damage done to Dan Turpin over the course of the story).  I also didn’t quite get what Turpin was trying to accomplish; at the time, it seemed to me that things would have worked out fine if he’d just left things up to the “goodies” (as he calls them on page 19), Orion and Lightray.  (For the record, I do get it now.)  Finally, if I’m going to be honest, I probably also had a hard time fully relating to Turpin as a character — this aging, balding, unlovely man so determined not to go out quietly.  (Unsurprisingly, my sixty-four-year-old self finds it considerably easier to identify with Turpin than my fourteen-year-old self could — well, except for the balding part; I’m still doing OK there)

Fifty years after its original publication, I’ve come to realize “The Death Wish of Terrible Turpin!” is, like New Gods #6’s “The Glory Boat!!”, a story I needed to grow into to fully appreciate; I count myself fortunate that I’ve lived long enough to do so.

Dan “Terrible” Turpin is one of several characters created by Jack Kirby over the decades whom the King of Comics’ fans have come to feel was something of a stand-in for the man himself.  (Other, rather better-known examples are Ben Grimm and Nick Fury.)  That’s likely to be the main reason why the character has had a substantial post-Kirby run in the DC Universe — both in the comics and in ancillary media — especially when compared to other minor players from the Fourth World titles (e.g., Dave Lincoln and Claudia Shane).

When writer-artist John Byrne was given charge of revamping Superman in 1986, he wasted almost no time in bringing Turpin into DC’s new post-Crisis continuity, introducing him into the Man of Steel’s supporting cast as early as Superman (1987 series) #7.  As the second-in-command to Capt. Maggie Sawyer in the Metropolis Police Dept.’s Special Crimes Unit, Turpin would become a familiar face on the scene in many of the confrontations between the Last Son of Krypton and a variety of “super-weirdos”.

Panel from Superman (1987 series) #7 (Jul., 1987). Text by John Byrne; art by Byrne and Karl Kesel.

Panel from Guardians of Metropolis #3 (Jan., 1995). Text by Karl Kesel; art by Kieron Dwyer and Mike Manley.

Over the course of the next decade, this version of Turpin even picked up a new backstory.  As we noted in our New Gods #5 post last August, he was eventually retroactively conflated with one of the Boy Commandos whom Kirby had created with Joe Simon in the 1940s (and whose vintage adventures were being reprinted in Mister Miracle at the same time New Gods was reprinting old “Manhunter” stories) — namely the derby-wearing “Brooklyn”, the only member of the BCs who’d never been given a real name.  (This was a nifty idea which probably wouldn’t have flown in 1972, even if it had occurred to Kirby, as Turpin seems too old in his New Gods appearances to have been a youngster during the World War II era — but it worked well enough in 1996.)

This iteration of Dan Turpin made his last appearance in DC’s 2008-09 Final Crisis miniseries, in which he was temporarily possessed by the spirit of Darkseid (he got better, thankfully); to the best of my knowledge, he hasn’t turned up in any new comics since DC’s 2011 Flashpoint/”New 52″ reboot; but, given how everything old in comic books seems to become new again, given enough time, I wouldn’t lay odds on our having seen the last of him.  Meanwhile, we can enjoy his previous exploits in our old comics — and our old cartoons.

Back in the late ’90s, Bruce Timm and his fellow animators followed the lead of that era’s “Superman” comics in including Dan Turpin as a supporting cast member in Superman: The Animated Series; in doing so, they took certain liberties with the character’s design, remaking him in Jack Kirby’s own image as a tribute to the creator.  Turpin appeared in twelve episodes during the show’s first two seasons; his last outing, a two-parter called “Apokolips… Now!”, saw the veteran officer meet a hero’s death at the hands of Darkseid.  While not a direct adaptation of “The Death Wish of Terrible Turpin!”, the animated Turpin’s farewell adventure clearly took inspiration from Kirby’s tale; appropriately enough, its first half aired on February 7, 1998 — almost exactly four years to the date of Jack Kirby’s own passing on Feb. 6, 1994.

Along with its lead story, New Gods #8 also included another 3-page installment of the “Young Gods of Supertown” featurette.  Unlike the lead story it bears no credits; obviously, it’s written and pencilled by Kirby, but the usual sources attribute the inking to either Mike Royer (who performed those honors for “Terrible Turpin”) or Vince Colletta (whose last credited work in New Gods appeared in issue #5).  Me, I’m going with Royer.

This brief tale features the return of Fastbak, last seen in issue #5, as well as the Black Racer, last seen in issue #4 (at least as far as New Gods or other Kirby-authored comics were concerned; his most recent appearance in any comic would have been Lois Lane #115).

As we learn on the next page, Fastbak has more than the Black Racer to worry about in his drive to locate and recover young Esak (last seen in Forever People #7):

Fastbak eludes both the “terror-bats” and a patrol of para-demons, but he’s still got one more obstacle ahead:

We don’t learn anything of substance about the three main characters appearing in this vignette, or about any other aspect of the Fourth World, either; indeed, it’s not even clear if these events are supposed to take place before the first issues of the Fourth World books (as those in most of the previous “Young Gods of Supertown” shorts in New Gods and Forever People have been expressly shown to), or if they’re concurrent with those of this issue’s lead story.  Nevertheless, it’s a quick, entertaining read, and you really can’t ask for much more from a single 3-page comic book story.

New Gods #8 finishes up with another “Kirby Classic” from the Golden Age of Comics.  This “Manhunter” adventure by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby originally appeared in Adventure Comics #77 (Aug., 1942)…

… aaannd that’s all I have to say about it, actually.

Coming up in April, we’ll be taking a look at New Gods #9 — the final issue published in the 25-cent 48-page format.**  Will I have any more to say about that issue’s “Manhunter” reprint than I have about any of the others?  Probably not, but you should come back to check out the post, regardless — you wouldn’t want to miss out on getting acquainted (or reacquainted, as the case may be) with “The Bug!”


*Excerpted from an interview with Jack Kirby conducted circa 1989-92 by Ray Wyman, Jr.; see John Morrow, Old Gods & New (TwoMorrows, 2021), p. 127.

**Yeah, I know it says “52 BIG pages” in that little circle on the cover, but don’t let that fool you.  Around November, 1971, DC had upped the number of pages from 48 — but only on the cover.  The amount of comic book you got for your quarter didn’t actually change; DC just started including the front and back covers in their page tabulation.  (They had already been counting the ad pages, naturally.)



  1. DontheArtistformerlyknownasfrodo628 · February 12, 2022

    Before I comment on the excellent New Gods #8, allow me to digress a moment and wander down a rabbit hole for a bit. I sat up last night watching some of the Roku docu-series “Slugfest,” which is about the decades-long competition between Marvel and DC for comics supremacy. It’s an OK doc that really doesn’t contain too many tidbits I hadn’t already picked up from other sources, but what’s interesting about it is how they very nonchalantly use Kevin Smith to narrate and a bunch of well-known actors to play the various comics creators over the years. Some folks, like Stan Lee, are played by both Lance Henriksen of Millenium fame and Sean Gunn (brother to James), but you’ve got Patrick Warburton playing Tom Fagen, Tim Blake Nelson playing Steve Englehart, Clark Gregg as Terry Stewart. Morena Baccarin as Jeanette Kahn, Brandon Routh as Joe Simon and, as one of the actors playing Jack “King” Kirby, a perfectly-cast Ray Wise. Wise wonderfully captures Jack’s heartbreak and cigar-chomping irascibility to great effect and despite not working from the best of scripts, it’s these casting choices that make the docu-series worth watching at all. They do have some interesting interviews with the real-life Roy Thomas, Steve Englehart and Jeanette Kahn here. Thomas discusses the Funky Flashman stuff that we covered a while back and the Kahn stuff was particularly interesting and was really the only part of the doc that was new to me. Also Mark Evanier is in this and he has much to say about Jack. You gotta have Roku on your TV to watch it, but it’s worth a few minutes of your time to hunt it down and check it out.

    Now…on to the comic at hand. New Gods #8 is a particularly good story because it sets the focus of the story on a narrow beam, as opposed to the scattershot approach Kirby has been known to take on other books and puts most of it’s spotlight on a supporting player instead of one of the major cast members. We never find out too much about Turpin in Kirby’s incarnation; don’t know if he’s married or has kids or paints watercolors in his off-hours, but the one thing that is obvious about him is that he would rather die in the line of duty than retire into graceful obscurity when his time is up. It would have been nice if Jack had explored some of this a bit more instead of dragging Turpin into a fight he couldn’t win against Kalibak and it’s a shame he never had the chance to come back and look at any of this again, but what we have here is telling and probably says much about how Jack was feeling about his own life and his own place in the legacy of his industry. I would imagine, living in Stan’s shadow (and there’s a lot of good stuff with Jack’s grandkids in the Roku doc that speaks to this), that Jack was feeling short-changed and left out and had no real idea of just how beloved he was among comics fans. It’s a shame, really. Jack became so bitter about Stan and the glory he felt had been denied him over the years that it seems like he never really had time to appreciate all the blessings he had received.

    Anyway, for a comic book in the 1970’s, there’s a lot of introspection here and it would have been nice if Jack had the chance to unbox and deal with even more of it than he did. Like you Alan, I find myself a lot more willing to identify with a man at the end of his life, frustrated with what he has and how little of it that’s left, at age 64, much more than when I was a mere lad of 14. Jack may be gone, but Turpin…and Ben Grimm and Nick Fury and all the other Kirby surrogates out there…are still banging around and entertaining us. Somewhere, Jack has to be enjoying that fact.

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    • frednotfaith2 · February 12, 2022

      I’d read the book, Don, but hadn’t previously known there was a series based on it … one google search later, and I’m able to watch on my pc! Very enjoyable!

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      • Cornelius Featherjaw · March 21, 2022

        Reminds me that I had a dream a couple months ago about a documentary miniseries allegedly about a young Stan Lee but featuring arson, murder, and Stan being transported to Middle Earth as part of a crossover with that new Lord of the Rings prequel series and being inspired by it to create the Mandarin’s 10 rings.

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    • Alan Stewart · February 12, 2022

      Thanks for the review of the “Slugfest” docuseries, Don — I’d read about it elsewhere and I’ve kept meaning to check it out but then forgetting. Maybe I’ll remember now!

      As for Kirby’s bitterness, I think it’s important to note that he might well have been able to move on and enjoy his latter years more fully if Marvel hadn’t given him such a uniquely hard time over the return of his original artwork in the mid-1980s, pretty much forcing him to go to the press and have it out with them publicly. I don’t know if “Slugfest” covers that particular historical episode or not, but if they haven’t yet, they should. (They *are* planning to do more, right?)

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      • frednotfaith2 · February 12, 2022

        Just finished binge-watching the series. Unsurprisingly, it didn’t delve too deep into details or controversies over who did what — otherwise it’d be much longer and I’d still be watching! Nevertheless, an enjoyable overview of decades of competition between DC & Marvel and their ups and downs, and including Simon & Kirby’s creation of Captain America and on Kirby’s defection to DC, but no mention of Infantino winding up at Marvel a few years later. But even before that, Gardner Fox, one of the key shapers of the DC mythos for decades had been unceremoniously dumped and spent at least a few months writing for Marvel. I think the fact that for decades, DC/National had always been so much bigger than Timely/Atlas/Marvel, and that no one writer or artist or even editor ever dominated DC the way that Lee & Kirby dominated Marvel in the 1960s that Kirby’s switching, and entirely at his own choice, was a much bigger deal than Fox or Infantino winding up at Marvel because DC had let them go. But then, decades earlier, Kirby himself had been let go by Timely, along with Joe Simon, because they’d also been moonlighting at National, mainly due to not getting what they felt was sufficient compensation for the success of Captain America Comics that Martin Goodman had verbally promised them but hadn’t put in writing (mote details not mentioned in the series). Seems Kirby had to keep learning the hard lesson that a verbal contract is worth exactly as much as the paper it’s not written on — nada.
        I agree with the concluding comments of the series that DC & Marvel needed one another as competitors over the last 60 years, to force one another to improve their output, to not rest for too long on their laurels or rely too much on gimmicks or oversaturation of product at the expense of quality stories and art, as both have been guilty of.

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        • frednotfaith2 · February 12, 2022

          Gotta add another comment on Slugfest — it included an interview with Carmine Infantino on the Superman / Spider-Man team-up that I’d actually seen before, on Bob Wilkins’ Creature Feature program which played late at nights on Oakland’s Channel 2, KTVU. When my family lived on Treasure Island Naval Station, just off the San Francisco / Oakland Bay Bridge, from October 1974 to June 1976, I watched that program regularly and the first night my family spent there, in a one room lodge before we got into housing, we wound up staying late and happened to catch the show, featuring Night of the Living Dead and … an interview with Stan Lee, plugging Origins of Marvel Comics, which also happened to be the first time I ever saw or heard Lee on tv. That night rather stuck in my memory! And maybe simply because he was a blonde guy who wore glasses and was from the mid-west, Indiana, Wilkins’ looked very much like Roy Thomas, albeit a bit older — turns out Wilkins was a decade older than Thomas. I loved the show as much for his droll humor and commentary and interesting interviews with many significant figures from movies and comics, however loosely associated somehow with the horror genre or just fantasy pop culture. One of the things I missed about living in the San Francisco area when we moved to Lemoore, CA, although in short order I switched from watching horror films to Saturday Night Live.

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  2. frednotfaith2 · February 12, 2022

    Another informative and great issue analysis, Alan! I can very much understand how our feelings or understanding of certain stories can change considerably from the time when we were still kids to being a half-century older, with all the various experiences and greater knowledge we gained in the meantime and changes in our perspectives. Also fun to see the various ways over the decades that Kirby, in one way or another, included himself or someone very much like him, in his stories.

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  3. Neill · February 12, 2022

    I apparently loved this story more than you at the time, Alan–but looking at it now–the self-expression through Turpin seems obvious, but the visual now strikes me as kinda Infantino-ish. Btw, I loved having the Simon-Kirby reprints in back (and I vote for Vinnie on the Fastbak inks).

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  4. Brian Morrison · February 13, 2022

    Alan, you’ve shattered my illusions! For fifty years I’d thought that I had been getting 4 more pages from my DC comics. I never counted the pages – I was robbed!

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  5. Ian Christie-smith · February 15, 2022

    Must say I’m really enjoying your website. Takes me back to being 12-14 when I first came across the Fourth World comics which as I live in England was not easy to do. US Comics were sold at local newsagents (shops that sold newspapers/ magazines and other goods) but often they were sporadic and not in publication order. I cycled around my whole area to every shop I could find until I had all the issues. Kirby really opened up a whole new world for me. Keep up the reviews.

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    • Brian Morrison · February 21, 2022

      Ian, I echo your sentiments and share your memories of cycling to the towns local to where I lived in the north east of Scotland. I remember finding issues that were almost a year old tucked away at the back of spinner racks as I tried to fill in the holes in my collection. The thrill of finding that missing issue was immense. Happy days!

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  6. Cornelius Featherjaw · March 21, 2022

    Thank goodness for your commentary on the Young God’s of Supertown backup. Otherwise I never would have known who “youngesac” was supposed to be.

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  7. Stu Fischer · March 31, 2022

    I don’t have much to say about this one. Count me as one of those people puzzled as to why Turpin wasn’t killed, maimed or critically injured in this story. The fight between Kalibak and Orion during which they discuss their natures is really what makes the issue. I too liked the Young Gods of Supertown story.

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  10. John Minehan · May 9, 2022

    Oddly enough (I was collecting comics at the time this came out), I first read this story in law school in the 1990s.

    I think it finally made me understand the title of the book.

    The “New Gods” Kirby is writing about are not the various beings from New Genesis and Apokalypse . . . it’s us, it is humanity.

    We have the seeds of the same kind of greatness and pettiness that we see in Orion and Kalibak. That is the point of Turpin’s inhuman act of courage and defiance.

    It is an interesting way to see a lot of Kirby’s work from Mercury back in the 1940s, through Thor in the 1960s to CPT Victory in the 1980s.

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