New Gods #5 (Oct.-Nov., 1971)

With this post, we’re taking a short break from Giant-Size Marvel Month to pay a brief visit to the DC Universe — more specifically, to that section of it known as Jack Kirby’s Fourth World.  When last we looked in on the New Gods, our hero Orion had assumed the earthly disguise of “O’Ryan” just in time for he and his ally, P.I. Dave Lincoln, to go into action against Inter-Gang — the human criminal organization allied with the forces of Apokolips — and their plan to take out Earthly communications technology for thousands of miles.  While the duo were able to thwart Inter-gang’s immediate plot with the secret aid — or at least the presence — of the mysterious Black Racer, the organization itself was hardly slowed down — as Orion would learn as early as the next issue.

In New Gods #4’s “O’Ryan Gang and the Deep Six”, the war between Apokolips and New Genesis enters a deadly new phase, as for the first time — or at least the first we readers have been privy to — a denizen of the latter god-world falls to enemy forces upon our own Earth.  Pulled from harbor waters by police officers, he is recognized by Orion: 

Seagrin, a New God who “loved the deeps and all life in it”, has found his death within his cherished ocean waters.  Orion knows the killing to be the work of someone from Apokolips, but there’s a mystery here, as Seagrin’s Mother Box — who we see perform one last service for her charge by calling down cosmic flames to carry him to the Source (an event also witnessed by the Black Racer) — should have given him advance warning of an impending attack from an enemy from that world.

But Orion’s own Mother Box soon deduces the answer, which he shares with Dave Lincoln and his other human allies during a meeting at Lincoln’s apartment:

Through Mother Box, Orion identifies a lower-echelon Inter-Gang member, Snaky Doyle, who knows the location of the “instrument that shields all those of Apokolips” from the Mother Boxes of New Genesis.  Tailing Snaky to an old mansion on the seacoast,  Orion then directs his friends to act as though they’re part of a rival criminal operation — “O’Ryan’s Gang” — on the pretext of trying to horn in on Inter-Gang’s action.  The ruse succeeds, and the instrument — the “jammer” — is located and, through a blast of Orion’s astro-force, swiftly destroyed.  But the story doesn’t end there — because Seagrin’s slayers are still at large, and Orion, able once again to detect and track them, sets off alone in pursuit…

That brings us, of course, to the primary subject of today’s post — New Gods #5 — which doesn’t open by picking up immediately where issue #4 left off, but, rather, starts off like this:

As had every issue of New Gods since #2, issue #5 begins with a sequence featuring one or more of the titular characters who aren’t named Orion, in a setting remote from our own mortal sphere — sometimes New Genesis, sometimes even farther afield — thereby reminding readers of the cosmic scope of the series, prior to shifting the focus back to Earth, and the ongoing exploits of the book’s central character.

This particular sequence, spotlighting the New God Metron, is graced with a splash page featuring one of writer/penciller/editor Jack Kirby’s imaginative collages;* the page also includes an early use by Kirby of the term “Celestials”, which would take on a somewhat different meaning in his later Eternals series for Marvel Comics.

This is the first appearance of the Promethean Galaxy — a huge concept (in more ways than one) which, in its eventual conflation with the almost-but-not-quite synonymous concept of the Source Wall (aka “the final barrier”) , has proven to be highly durable over the last five decades; in recent years, it’s become one of the cornerstones of DC Comics’ fictional multiverse.

The shift of focus to Earth is accompanied by what might be called a second opening splash, which, in addition to giving us the title of the feature (the story’s title was included in the first opening splash) provides the issue’s credits.  And there’s a new name there (“a new celestial”, even, if you go by the credit box copy), for the first time since Kirby’s Fourth World project kicked off a year earlier with Jimmy Olsen #133: Mike Royer.

Prior to New Gods #5, every comic written and drawn by Jack Kirby since his return to DC in 1970 had been inked by Vince Colletta.  But Kirby soured on Colletta sometime in 1971 — probably due in part to his having learned that Colletta had been showing his artwork around the offices of Marvel Comics prior to its publication, as well as to his discovery that Colletta had on occasion been simplifying his pencils, omitting certain details to make the inker’s job easier (a practice that extended back to Colletta’s long stint inking Kirby on Marvel’s Thor).  As a replacement, Kirby chose Royer — most of whose work to date had been for Gold Key and Warren, but who’d also previously assisted Kirby on projects for the short-lived “Marvelmania” fan club, prior to the King’s leaving Marvel for DC.  In addition to New Gods, Royer would take over the inking for Mister Miracle (with issue #5) and Forever People (with #6); meanwhile, Vince Colletta would continue inking Kirby on Jimmy Olsen, (except of course for Jimmy’s and Superman’s heads, which continued to be rendered by Murphy Anderson), though Royer would ultimately embellish a couple of issues late in Kirby’s run on that series.**

There were readers in 1971 who were unhappy with the replacement of Colletta by Royer, and your humble blogger must admit that he was one of them.  I was very comfortable with the “look” of Colletta’s finishes over Kirby, which I associated with the artists’ collaboration on Thor, and I had no idea that I’d been missing anything due to the former’s simplifications of the latter’s original drawings.  To me, Royer’s work seemed rougher and harsher, and generally less visually appealing, than his predecessor’s.  In time, I’d come to appreciate that Royer was more faithful to Kirby’s pencils than virtually any other inker had been, giving us as direct an experience of the King’s art as we were ever likely to get outside of the original pencilled pages; I’d also learn to value the greater power and vigor that came through in the finished work as a result of that fidelity.  In August, 1971, however, that time was still some ways off.

This scene — which is, if I’m not mistaken, the first time that the city in which most of New Gods‘ Earth-based action takes place has been specifically stated to be Superman’s home base of Metropolis — is also the first appearance of Metropolis Police Sergeant Daniel “Terrible” Turpin, who’ll go on to play a more prominent role in issue #8 — and, in the process, establish himself as one of the most memorable human characters created by Kirby for his Fourth World mythos.

Leaving the police station, Dave Lincoln returns to his apartment to confer with Orion’s other human allies: Claudia Shane, Victor Lanza, and Harvey Lockman.  Not having received further word from Orion since he abruptly left them at the end of issue #4, Harvey and Victor elect to return home for now, leaving only Claudia to keep vigil with Dave.. Meanwhile…

A giant clam?  Surely that’s not what was freaking Orion out on the last page of #4…

“Yes,” Slig gloats in response to Orion’s query about the “something huge” he saw earlier (we all knew it couldn’t be the clam, right?), “a masterful creation by the Deep Six!  Our contribution to great Darkseid’s campaign to shake up Earthmen!”  And then he leaves, confident in Orion’s helplessness.

That assurance turns out to have been unwarranted, however.  Once alone, Orion mentally summons the power of his astro-force, transmitting it to circuits embedded in the wrist of one of his gauntlets; then, he proceeds to blast away at the mutated clam-thing trapping his leg:

(I have no idea if “Shark-seed” survived this encounter, but if he did, here’s hoping he was eventually able to look up Nanaue, aka King Shark, with whom he obviously has a lot in common.)

Though anxious to find the remainder of the Deep Six, as well as their creature, Orion knows he first needs to locate his equipment — and once that’s done, to offer “a proper farewell to Slig”…

Detail of panel from Boy Commandos #2 (Spring, 1943). Art by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon.

“Terrible” Turpin was hardly the first Jack Kirby character to wear a derby, of course.  He’d been preceded not only by Marvel’s “Dum Dum” Dugan (of Howling Commandos and S.H.I.E.L.D. fame), but also by the much earlier “Brooklyn” of the Boy Commandos, who first appeared in 1942; in fact, though this idea almost certainly never occurred to Kirby, in later years DC would reveal that Brooklyn and Turpin were, in fact, the same person.

Meanwhile, back at Dave Lincoln’s apartment, he and Claudia Shane continue to wait anxiously for news of Orion; Claudia, however, is at least as worried about what their and the others’ involvement with Orion may ultimately bring down upon them all…

With the arrival of Kalibak (who, with the exception of a pin-up page in issue #4, hasn’t been seen since New Gods #1), Kirby has completed setting the stage for issue #8’s “The Death Wish of Terrible Turpin!” — a story which, due to the title’s bi-monthly schedule, won’t see the light of day until February, 1972, six months later.

Meanwhile, back in the Deep Six’s undersea cavern, Slig has discovered Orion’s escape.  By the time he finds his former captive, the warrior of New Genesis has reclaimed his astro-harness.  “Allowing you to live was a mistake, Orion!!!” grouses the Apokoliptican.

We’ve been told in previous issues that Orion is different from others of New Genesis, and we’ve also been made privy to knowledge that he himself doesn’t have — namely, that he is in fact a native of Apokolips.  But this is the most savage we’ve ever actually seen him, and it’s a startling, even a disturbing moment.  It’s especially unsettling given that we’ve been led to believe that the Mother Boxes are in some sense alive — meaning that we’re watching our hero gleefully kill a living, and perhaps sentient, being.  Should the Mother Boxes of Apokolips be considered to be as evil as those who carry and use them?  Kirby leaves that up to each reader to decide —  though the fact that the only “emotion” Slig’s Mother Box is said to express during her brief appearance is love, lends weight towards the answer being “no”.

I can recall being startled as well back in 1971 by how Orion’s “true face” was rendered in this scene — it’s a rougher, rather more bestial look than the one other time to date that readers had seen it, back in issue #3.  At the time, I chalked the difference up to the inking of this new Royer guy; in retrospect, however, I wonder if Kirby actually modified the design in his pencilling.

And that’s it for this installment of the saga.  In two months’ time, Kirby and Royer will bring us “The Glory Boat!!”: the first in a trilogy of stories which, though they essentially stand alone in narrative terms, together represent a high point — perhaps the high point — of creative achievement in the entire Fourth World epic.

New Gods #5 was the second issue to appear in the “bigger & better” format DC had inaugurated in June.  Like its fellow Fourth World titles, it filled out its page count in part with reprints from the Golden Age, an era when Kirby, in partnership with Joe Simon, had produced a number of features for the publisher.

In New Gods, the Simon and Kirby feature chosen for representation was “Manhunter”, a strip that had originally run in Adventure Comics from 1941 to 1944 (though S&K’s contributions appeared only in 1942).  Featuring the adventures of Paul Kirk, a big-game hunter turned costumed crimefighter, these stories didn’t seem like much more than nine or so pages of filler to me when I first read them in 1971 and 1972.  Ironically, however, I’d be happy that they’d made me at least passingly familiar with the character when, less than two years later, writer Archie Goodwin and artist Walt Simonson revived Paul Kirk for a backup series in Detective Comics; and then again, some four years after that, during Steve Englehart’s run on Justice League of America, as that writer built both on the Golden Age Manhunter and on Kirby’s own revisiting of that character concept in 1st Issue Special #5 (Aug., 1975) to develop a mythology for “the Manhunters” that imaginatively tied them into the backstory of the Green Lantern Corps — a significant contribution to DC continuity that would birth any number of future storylines, both by Englehart and by others. And none of those stories — nor the much-lauded Goodwin-Simonson “Manhunter” serial — would exist without those old Simon and Kirby strips.

But that’s comic books for you.  Everything has to start somewhere.

One thing that I appreciate about Jack Kirby’s comics during the “bigger & better” era more today than I probably did at the time is that they tended to have a few more pages of new content than did most of DC’s other books.  That might have been born of necessity — most of the old Simon and Kirby stories ran no more than ten pages, and Kirby needed more material than that to fill his allotted page count — but whatever the reason, it meant that in addition to its 22-page lead story, New Gods #5 also included a second brand-new story — the first in a short-lived backup series about the “Young Gods of Supertown”:

There are no earth-shaking revelations in “Introducing Fastbak!” — but it does enhance our understanding of New Genesis society, especially in regards to relations between the younger and elder New Gods.  And it also made putting down that extra dime for a DC comic just a little bit easier — at least, it did for my fourteen-year-old self, back in August, 1971.


*Here is the original, full-color version of the collage, sans text and the drawn figure of Metron:

**John Morrow, with Jon B. Cooke, Old Gods & New: A Companion to Jack Kirby’s Fourth World (The Jack Kirby Collector #80) (TwoMorrows, 2021), pp. 92, 98-99.


  1. Fred Key · August 14, 2021

    Great entry on a breathtaking book. Amazing how fast Kirby switches focus, from the tremendous Promethean Galaxy to Turpin’s ugly sandwich. Dramatic to the point of exhaustion!

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  2. DontheArtistformerlyknownasfrodo628 · August 14, 2021

    So many concepts introduced here; some that never get properly fleshed out and some that have gone on to change the make-up of the DCU for all time. What a mind Jack had. I wonder if it ever occured to him to use Aquaman and Atlantis in the Deep Six storyline? It would have been interesting to see Jack try to reconcile his herculean vision with the more mundane aspects of DC’s superhero universe. As for Mike Royer, I never had a problem with Mike’s inks on Kirby, nearly as much as I did his attempts to ink other people, since the Kirby influence on Mike was so strong I always felt he was trying to make other pencillers look more like Kirby with his brush work. I could be wrong about that, or confusing Royer with someone else, but I seem to remember seeing Royer’s work elsewhere back in the day and not being a big fan of it for that very reason. Still, it’s good Jack had someone who would be faithful to his pencils and would realize the importance of what the Fourth World would mean in terms of Kirby’s over-all impact on comics history. The Orion book was my favorite Fourth World book and stories like this one were why.

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  3. JoshuaRascal · August 15, 2021

    Not particularly concerning New Gods #5, but somewhat related…

    I was in a VONS Supermarket today. At the checkout stand, I saw two big, large sized magazines on the checkout stand magazine rack that absolutely amazed me.

    An Entertainment Weekly Special Edition “Stan Lee, A Life of Marvel”, The blurp on the cover “His Universe, His Legacy, His Heroes”. A big, full sized magazine special edition with lots of pictures of Stan Lee, including from his time at Marvel in the 1960’s. No pictures of Jack Kirby or Steve Ditko. Didn’t read the text because I didn’t have time.

    A Time Magazine Special Edition: “The Story of Marvel”. From the ad: “From its early days as a small comic book company that struggled to compete, to the vision of pioneer Stan Lee,…” Again, lots of pictures of Stan Lee and none of Jack Kirby or Steve Ditko.

    I guess it is sealed in concrete that Stan Lee created the Marvel Universe, “His Universe, His Legacy, His Heroes”..

    These special editions were located on a magazine rack otherwise filled with special edition magazines from major publishers about Presidents or historical events or historical figures. Amazing to see special edition magazines about Stan Lee that glorifies the man from publishers like Entertainment Weekly or Time Magazine.

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    • Chris A. · August 15, 2021

      Stan Lee never left Marvel, unlike Kirby and Ditko, and he portrayed himself as Marvel’s equivalent to Walt Disney. Think of all the talented writers and animators who worked on those classic Disney shorts and films, and yet Walt tends to get all of the credit to the general public.

      It’s also about money: Stan Lee filmed a number of cameos in the Marvel films prior to his death, and this helps keep the “brand” alive for any future cameos in films not yet released.

      This is no slight to the great creative concepts Kirby and Ditko brought to silver age Marvel.

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      • Stu Fischer · August 17, 2021

        I agree that it’s all about money but for a different reason than the one that Chris A, states. Magazines like the two JoshuaRascal saw are the original version of “clickbait”, call it “walletbait” if you will. They aren’t meant to be historically accurate, just to cater to the preconceived notions of the people that the publishers hope will buy them. If you clutter up their brain with names that mean nothing to them like Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, they won’t buy it. The target audience isn’t looking for an accurate history book. Just think of Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko as the modern day equivalent of William Dawes and Samuel Prescott and Stan Lee as the modern day equivalent of Paul Revere.

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  4. Stu Fischer · August 17, 2021

    Oddly enough, while I almost always have a ton to say about your blog posts on “Jimmy Olsen”, “The Forever People” (to the point of still not responding to your last on that one) and “Mister Miracle”, I have practically nothing to add here. I re-read “New Gods # 4” earlier on D.C. Universe. Unlike most of Kirby’s other issues, New Gods #4 and #5 really don’t introduce any interesting new concepts or characters (except for the Final Barrier–this book reminded me of that, I was very curious about that in 1971). “The Deep Six” is a clever title for an underwater monster group, but there’s nothing really special about them except that Slig has a Mother Box.

    As you point out, the most important new point in the story is Orion showing his true unvarnished self, inside and out. I think this is actually a landmark for D.C. Comics. Orion might be D.C.s first Marvel hero, at least in this era*, in that he has a dark side to him (sorry) and isn’t spotless and untarnished (OK, Green Arrow in 1971 probably comes close although the creative staff at the time probably didn’t intend it as such). Orion would fit in with the darker, grittier protagonists (note, I deliberately am not using the word “hero”) of comics in the late 1980s and 1990s.

    * The original Batman would certainly fit, but as you noted in your 1960s blog posts, he ratcheted down the darkness a lot over the years into 1971.

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    • James Hanson · October 6, 2021

      Well, not just dark and gritty — he is shown taking glee in causing pain and then essentially executes a helpless, defeated enemy and throws his body out like trash. Was any other superhero so dark in 1971?

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  5. Marco Firminger · August 17, 2021

    Another great article!
    I recently received the Marvel Kirby War and Romance book, and noted how early on it was that Stan had Vinnie inking Jack ( excuse me any non-Marvelites for using first names here). Vinnie inked most of the late 50’s, early 60s Romance comics that Jack did, except for a couple of later issues of Love Romances. The stories you can tell are by Jack, but miss lots of his telltale backgrounds ( building details, internal furniture and furnishings). Its good stuff by Jack and Vinnie though, and its nice to see Jack focus on the fashions of the time. Love Romances #104 however features inking by Al Hartley, and all of a sudden buildings have the Kirby design features and detail, and overall there is a LOT more to the backgrounds. It looks like a much more finished product in comparison. So all I can conclude is that Vinnie took artistic licence from the very onset of his collaboration with Jack, and Stan must have known, but condoned it because Vinnie delivered up such really nice looking girls ( I am not being sexist here I hope!).

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  8. Marcus · October 16, 2021

    O’Ryan’s gang. I wince every time I see this. Though English is my native language, when I was seven my family moved to Puerto Rico and I had to learn Spanish quickly. Because of that, words I’ve never heard spoken, sometimes, in my head, get a more Spanish-like pronunciation (and vice versa) so Orion to me was Or-ee-on rather than Or-eye-on. It wasn’t till years later when Jethro Tull’s album Stormwatch came out and I listened to the track “Orion” that I realized my mistake.

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